This is Loon Lake at the dam, on May 6, 2006
Loon Lake - May 6
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Loon Lake - May 6
On May 14, 2004, we took this photo right near the Loon Lake dam.
This is Loon Lake at the dam, on May 6, 2006
This is Loon Lake at the dam, on May 6, 2006
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MrPolaris
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man what a difference, it is going to be a long time before all the snow melts up in the hills which is good and bad. . . Going to be a bad year for debris in the lakes. . .
Currently Folsom Lake is restricted to speeds of less than 5mph due to so much debris in the river and flodding down into the main lake area.
Currently Folsom Lake is restricted to speeds of less than 5mph due to so much debris in the river and flodding down into the main lake area.
Hello
My dogs say hello. . .
Fire Marshall Dusty says, "if you are going to weld your gas tank, make sure it is half full and you have your friend do the welding!!!"
My dogs say hello. . .
Fire Marshall Dusty says, "if you are going to weld your gas tank, make sure it is half full and you have your friend do the welding!!!"
Good for the rivers I suppose....clearing out all the natures trash...and I'm sure a few bits of human trash.
Have to skim the lake....but I suppose they'll just wait for all the wood to sink and rot.
Have to skim the lake....but I suppose they'll just wait for all the wood to sink and rot.
The last words spoken before a YouTube video is filmed: "Hold my beer, now watch this..."
Regards,
Ken Hower
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Ken Hower
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Did you see Nova on Global Dimming?
Some Israel scentists in the 50's, did some measurements of sunlight for irrigation. They went back and did the same thing 50 years later...there was something like an 18% reduction in sunlight....but they were cautious about the data.
But then, a scientist in Ohio...was doing a study on Contrails from planes, and their effect on sunlight. His problem? How to get good data for control(when none existed). His big "break" came...on 9/12 through 15, when all the planes were grounded in 2001. Shockingly....the average (cold vs hot) US temp spiked 2-3 degrees...this number...hardly changes at all...but it jumped out on his graph like a sore thumb.
Anyway...the upshot of all this data is....from all the pollution and stuff in the air....it's been blocking the suns rays over the last 100 years...especially last 50. This has been a "deduction" from Global Warming.
The concern is....if visible particle emissions are reduced (as they have been significantly in the US) on a worldwide scale...without a corresponding reduction in Co2 and other greenhouse gasses...we could be looking at 10 degree increase in temps in the next 100 years.
Based on how stupid we are? I don't doubt us doing it.
Pretty enlightening...or scary show...depending on your view.
Some Israel scentists in the 50's, did some measurements of sunlight for irrigation. They went back and did the same thing 50 years later...there was something like an 18% reduction in sunlight....but they were cautious about the data.
But then, a scientist in Ohio...was doing a study on Contrails from planes, and their effect on sunlight. His problem? How to get good data for control(when none existed). His big "break" came...on 9/12 through 15, when all the planes were grounded in 2001. Shockingly....the average (cold vs hot) US temp spiked 2-3 degrees...this number...hardly changes at all...but it jumped out on his graph like a sore thumb.
Anyway...the upshot of all this data is....from all the pollution and stuff in the air....it's been blocking the suns rays over the last 100 years...especially last 50. This has been a "deduction" from Global Warming.
The concern is....if visible particle emissions are reduced (as they have been significantly in the US) on a worldwide scale...without a corresponding reduction in Co2 and other greenhouse gasses...we could be looking at 10 degree increase in temps in the next 100 years.
Based on how stupid we are? I don't doubt us doing it.
Pretty enlightening...or scary show...depending on your view.
The last words spoken before a YouTube video is filmed: "Hold my beer, now watch this..."
Regards,
Ken Hower
RTF Director
http://www.rubicontrail.org/
Regards,
Ken Hower
RTF Director
http://www.rubicontrail.org/
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BradM
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Ken wrote:
The concern is....if visible particle emissions are reduced (as they have been significantly in the US) on a worldwide scale...without a corresponding reduction in Co2 and other greenhouse gasses...we could be looking at 10 degree increase in temps in the next 100 years.
Based on how stupid we are? I don't doubt us doing it.
Pretty enlightening...or scary show...depending on your view.
I think we can count on China and the rest of the third world to make up the difference, then some. (and blame us the whole time)
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MrPolaris
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you mean everything is not hte US's fault. I got that impression form our fair balanced newpaper that the US was at fault for everything, including Chinas stellar human rights
Hello
My dogs say hello. . .
Fire Marshall Dusty says, "if you are going to weld your gas tank, make sure it is half full and you have your friend do the welding!!!"
My dogs say hello. . .
Fire Marshall Dusty says, "if you are going to weld your gas tank, make sure it is half full and you have your friend do the welding!!!"
They did mention China.....
Ever seen video there? The sky is never blue....
Ever seen video there? The sky is never blue....
The last words spoken before a YouTube video is filmed: "Hold my beer, now watch this..."
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Mr. Miyagi
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Actually.... The US burns more coal than we do all other resources combined. and... A few cities in China at one point had the worst air polution in the world....
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They actually talked about that too Terry.
They said the US is on the few countries in the world that removes most of the particles with scrubbers and they do this process before burning that removes a lot of sulphur. It creates some slag type product...that is disposed and is mostly toxic to the land! so there ya go. Also, some coal in Wyoming has very little sulphur...
They were developing techniques to remove Co2 from the stacks.
They said the US is on the few countries in the world that removes most of the particles with scrubbers and they do this process before burning that removes a lot of sulphur. It creates some slag type product...that is disposed and is mostly toxic to the land! so there ya go. Also, some coal in Wyoming has very little sulphur...
They were developing techniques to remove Co2 from the stacks.
The last words spoken before a YouTube video is filmed: "Hold my beer, now watch this..."
Regards,
Ken Hower
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Ken Hower
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TomZ
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The desirable Wyoming coal is mined in a place called the Powder River Basin, an area with oil and gas resources, as well. I hear the demand for this low-sulfur coal has created quite a mining boom there.
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I'll bet.
Back on track a bit....from some guys who've been on the trail on skis....there's between a few feet and 11 feet still on the trail. All the lakes are still frozen, except Rockbound, which is thawing on end.
Back on track a bit....from some guys who've been on the trail on skis....there's between a few feet and 11 feet still on the trail. All the lakes are still frozen, except Rockbound, which is thawing on end.
The last words spoken before a YouTube video is filmed: "Hold my beer, now watch this..."
Regards,
Ken Hower
RTF Director
http://www.rubicontrail.org/
Regards,
Ken Hower
RTF Director
http://www.rubicontrail.org/
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